海外の反応-大阪のラーメン店、二重価格設定を巡る紛争で中国人客の出入り禁止を警告

Osaka Ramen Shop Threatens to Ban Chinese Customers After Two-Tier Pricing Dispute – Unseen Japan
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海外のナナシさん

To make it less obvious, the dishes name are different and guy adds just a bit more karaage and nori and charges for two ramens.
Of course Chinese customers, who can read kanji, will get angry.

海外のナナシさん

Its hilarious that the owner didnt account for the fact that Chinese can read kanji 😂
Of course, his solution is just to ban all the Chinese outright now.
Just leaving the foreigners who cant read.

海外のナナシさん

Didn’t think that one through, there’s still:
Taiwanese, Singaporean, Chinese (ethnic) diaspora living abroad, Japanese diaspora living abroad.

海外のナナシさん

Not to mention Westerners that can read Japanese.

They put a dumb method up to have two tier pricing in, and when people noticed their method was dumb, they decided that people were the problem.

Just have two tier pricing and own it. If your business has a policy that you can’t admit to your customers, that is a sign that your business is shitty and you know it’s shitty.

海外のナナシさん

Former three are all Chinese to racists.

海外のナナシさん

Of course, cause it’s always “someone else”. The lack of self-awareness in Japan is alarming. I say this as a local myself.
Every time someone bad happens, the first impulse is to blame foreigners.
In my heritage country, the first impulse people have is to blame themselves by claiming “this country is rotten…”.
That’s why probably that particular region has improved its quality of life astonishingly.
A country cannot progress without reflection.

海外のナナシさん

I mean…. solid plan right?

海外のナナシさん

Yeah, they won’t cause as many problems.

海外のナナシさん

Yeah, that’s honestly just stupid, especially considering the history of kanji…
The ramen shop needs to close way down if they keep up these shady, discriminatory business practices.

海外のナナシさん

No, even stupider.

Consider the history of ramen.

海外のナナシさん

Racists aren’t very smart.

海外のナナシさん

The store’s Twitter page has grown to 6k followers and every post is basically just feeding into this controversy.
He made another new “store policy” just last night regarding different pricing.
No press is bad press I suppose.
It seems the owner is hoping he’ll gain more customers by pandering to the anti foreigner crowd than he’ll lose.
In Osaka I’m not sure that’s a safe bet but I guess we’ll see.

海外のナナシさん

Thing is, even if you are Japanese and don’t care for foreigners,
you probably don’t want to eat in a restaurant where every other diner is a racist.
Even the assholes get a bit sick of being surrounded by assholes.

海外のナナシさん

It’s just funny to see how deep into the hole the chap’s digging into.

海外のナナシさん

This stuff is an interesting rabbit hole.
Surely it becomes obvious at some point that with a two tier pricing system it actually becomes more lucrative for any business with some popularity to preference serving non Japanese customers over Japanese.

海外のナナシさん

The crazy thing is these places could easily just offer a local discount for people who mention it and show id.
They could even raise the prices across the board.
It just shows to me that racism is actually the point lol.

海外のナナシさん

Depends on if it makes up for those who stop coming because of such a move on both the japanese and foreign side.

海外のナナシさん

Yeah; if I know I’m going to get charged significantly more by a place because of my race I’m going to avoid it like the plague.
I’m not a prideful person but giving them business would feel like I’m degrading myself.

海外のナナシさん

There was an article posted on this sub a few months ago stating that shadier establishments like soap land already started doing that, iirc

海外のナナシさん

Soaplands can jack up prices without consequences.
It’s not that they have competition (until Japan perfects the gynoid).

海外のナナシさん

Yeah some of them have been doing it for years now.

海外のナナシさん

According to Arai, the foreign-language menu offers a premium ramen that uses a milder seasoning and blended soy sauce.
It also includes more meat than the standard version.
Arai said preparing these bowls requires double the workload.

It’s pretty obvious how shitty this excuse is.
He’s complaining that he charges more because the foreigner version is more work to make – but it was his decision to make the variant in the first place, which nobody asked for.

Just give everyone the regular bowls at the regular price.

海外のナナシさん

Yep. Why do you even need to use a different premium soy sauce for foreigners?
It’s one of those obvious lies that you just say and hope people will go along with to preserve the wa.

海外のナナシさん

Yeah as a foreigner I go to Japan for authentic local food, not some foreigner version.
If I wanted my Japanese food Americanized I’d go to my local supermarket and grab a box of california roll instead of flying to Japan.

海外のナナシさん

Japanese people are calling it out saying he’s just adding a little extra toppings which isn’t worth 2000 yen

海外のナナシさん

I doubt there is any difference at all and this is all made up

海外のナナシさん

Yes, it’s the equivalent of a taxi driver charging double to a non-local,
because he drove an extra mile round the block without telling them;
then complaining when someone finds out.

海外のナナシさん

I don’t know how people in Japan perceive this, but in Vietnam, restaurants that dare to charge two different prices for the same product or service depending on whether the customer is a local, from another region, or a foreigner are regarded as utterly unethical and disgraceful.
Such establishments cannot avoid police investigation and are often subjected to widespread public backlash and boycotts on social media.

海外のナナシさん

Same shit here in Brazil. We all know how people will exploit the shit out of oblivious foreigners who think everything is cheap, so we warn them as much as possible.
But to be honest, that’s for stuff you buy on the streets or at the beach.
I never ever saw an establishment charge more from foreigners, but if this happened, it would be all over the news and the police would be called.

I saw a video from a news youtube channel on this very Ramen shop and tried reading the comments in japanese (I’m N3~N2 though). I was surprised to see so many comments saying stuff like “yeah, but this happens in other countries too. It’s normal to charge more from foreigners”.

We don’t even have local discounts cause knowing how brazilians think, restaurants and shops would pull off the usual “half the double” discount…
This is pretty common on Black Friday…

海外のナナシさん

I watch this YouTube channel that talks about tourists in Prague…
All of this talk about charging tourists more is a very slippery slope.
It doesn’t feel like a reaction to mend an injustice…
It feels angry. That’s no good. That’s not omotenashi.

海外のナナシさん

Funny how the people of a developing nation all understand this but not the Japanese.
Instead of the Japanese matching their attitudes to that of a wealthy nation, Japan’s economy is declining to match the underdeveloped behavior of its people.

海外のナナシさん

It’s pretty unethical and unbecoming for normal Japanese ppl too.
I don’t think this is acceptable except to assholes of whom there is also no shortage

海外のナナシさん

The vast, vast majority of restaurants in Japan don’t do this…
If your restaurant is good enough (or in a touristy enough area), it can command high prices, whether from Japanese or foreign customers.

海外のナナシさん

On Japanese twitter the ramen shop owners tweet is not universally critisized…
It’s indeed the case that this practice is very rare (more common to outright refuse foreigners, but this is hard to track)

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