海外の反応-日本、2028年度末までに最大123万人の外国人労働者受け入れ計画を検討

Japan Eyes Plan to Accept Up To 1.23 Mil. Foreign Workers by End of Fiscal 2028
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海外のナナシさん

Yeah. Judging from the current exchange rate of yen and people need to learn Japanese to be eligible. I don’t think that gonna work.

海外のナナシさん

for skilled workers, no. but I saw a CNA clip of Japanese schools in rural Indonesia where they have connections to Japan and if you pass the test you can get sponsored for a work visa.

Indonesian Gen Z Learns Japanese To Escape Poverty By Working In Japan

海外のナナシさん

I did meet one person that is likely coming through this program working at a ski resort restaurant

海外のナナシさん

Yet here I am with N1 and fully pkay working relatively low paying jobs, looking down the barrel at visa issues.

I know there’s no hopes and dreams visa. But it sucks when I’ve made a life here, y’know?

海外のナナシさん

It’s hypocritical to say we will limit foreigners and then make plans to accept more than 1% of the population in 3 years. Make no mistake I lived in Canada for 2 decades and seen the result of these policies. They are neoliberals that will bring in cheap labour for the corporations while regular people suffer under low wages. Japan already is capable of automating many jobs, these people will replace the future generations of Japanese who would need better pay for their current living standards.

These “skilled” workers will work line and simplest assembly jobs while living in dorms and attending in-house language and training programs. They will likely take the minimum time to teach them basic words for the job. That’s it. There is no plan to integrate them into society.

There are still countries like India where people will see these as better than home conditions and come here to do it. They do it in Arab countries and they will do it here too.

Global neoliberals all serve their corporate masters.

海外のナナシさん

Oh please. “Neoliberals.” You bring up automation, yeah, whose paying for this “automation.” You live in a capitalist economy, unless you are living in North Korea or Cuba, you’re notion that oh it’s these X people to blame for all of this is NONESENSE. I bet you own shares. What do you think those shares are? You personally profit off what you describe as some “problem.”

海外のナナシさん

I’m a craftsperson only investing in my own business.

海外のナナシさん

Why are you in multiple country subs bitching at people? You seem like a bot stirring up shit. Do you live in Canada? You have no clue what the latest immigration policies have done to Canada. He isn’t even blaming the immigrants. He is blaming the policies that benefit corporations and funnel people into basically slave labour.

Youth unemployment is 20% in my city. Years prior, it was only 10%. How is this not detrimental to society? Bringing in tons of people is a wage suppression tactic. Take a look at Tim Hortons laying off Canadians and replacing them with temporary foreigner workers.

海外のナナシさん

It’ll work. Just that Japan will be full of South Asians and Mid Eastern workers. Not European or N. American foreigners.

海外のナナシさん

it’s so funny how people don’t even realize how many workers are already here or the kind they’re bringing in because they’re actually southeast asian/chinese and some korean

海外のナナシさん

There have never really been that many European of N American foreigners, and they were usually either bankers or C-suite people, or English teachers that left after a year or two….what are you even talking about?

海外のナナシさん

> we dont want 3rd world “illegals” they say.

> continue developing the programs that exploit 3rd world immigrants.

> with new visa fees and rules probably ensure these guys are in and out giving them even less reasons to try to assimilate with the locals

> division will only grow

Im sorry but this country is just a parody of itself at this stage

海外のナナシさん

Yup and the people that they should be enticing, like entrepreneurs, finance industry professionals, and other skilled professionals who can actually help long term economic growth will never want to come (or stay more than 5 years) because of…. Well lots of things. Taxes on global income, inheritance taxes, low salaries, lack of equity in businesses as a norm. And they continue to make it worse.

海外のナナシさん

A lot of people want to come here but a lot of companies are not willing to go through the very simple COE process for an engineer visa for example and well from working with recruiting agencies they want a unicorn whos already in the country on a visa already.

So its the good old catch 22

IT shortage but not willing to let new people in because they rather wait 1yr to find someone local instead of waiting 2-3 months for someone to relocate.

Its really annoying because I for example would need no asistance to relocate from apartment finding to getting everything setup Ive already done it all on a WHV stay but most recruiters either dont use it as a selling point or just dismiss it when I talk about it very annoying and its certainly starting to turn me off wanting to move here.

Theres also a rampant gatekeeping, in my old apartment a lot of the indian guys who had seemingly japanese jobs only seemed to work indian guys and I saw it first hand with a company I interviewed with entire team was Indian so they had no plans to actually hire me.

海外のナナシさん

IT shortage but not willing to let new people in because they rather wait 1yr to find someone local instead of waiting 2-3 months for someone to relocate.

You don’t even have to wait 2-3 months. Start them immediately as a remote overseas contractor then convert them to 正社員 later after relocation.

海外のナナシさん

Lol, those people are pirates whose only goal is to rob everyone else blind.

海外のナナシさん

This isn’t really true. If you’re a HSFP you have access to a ton of options that regular immigrants don’t. For an educated, fully bilingual professional it’s not too difficult to find international companies that will pay you handsomely in USD, and there’s very little competition because few of the natives speak good English even at the top level, and very few white collar foreigners speak Japanese. For entrepreneurs it’s fantastic because you can pay low salaries and you’ll still get high quality extremely professional employees (as long as you don’t hire foreigners), and obviously any overseas investments will pay you out in USD which goes really far here. And as for visas, HSFP become eligible for PR after one year of residency with enough points (not sure if this changes with the latest legislation).

Source: my life.

海外のナナシさん

just this woman not the country! 追放 this ragetrigger woman and install ishiba back please!

海外のナナシさん

You say that but the majority of young people controlled by tiktok and shorts are falling for blame foreigners tactic quite strongly so that 90% approve of her most recently 🙁

I dont blame the people as everyone worldwide is playing the blame foreigners game quite strongly when the focus should really be on the wealthy…

海外のナナシさん

She is extremely popular

海外のナナシさん

Ishiba “won” the last election at the LAST minute against her. He was given a chance, but that didn’t work. Sorry bud.

海外のナナシさん

They mean cheap labour

海外のナナシさん

All the talks about reducing/restricting immigration with Takaichi

And this happens, Lol

海外のナナシさん

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah. For fuck sake.

海外のナナシさん

Combine this with massive visa fee increases and efforts to make PR and naturalization harder to get.

The anti-foreigner rhetoric is all just a smokescreen so the government has cover to make bank from visa fees while making sure none of these foreign workers get too uppity by denying them long term residency and rights.

I’m pretty sure if Japan has its way, a Middle East-esque system of a vast migrant underclass serving the native “upper class” (in this case practically retirees) may be their ideal scenario by 2050.

海外のナナシさん

I think it might all actually be getting everything ready for the inevitable continuous increase in immigrants. I read recently somewhere that government predicts immigration will NEED to be at around 10% of the population by something like 2060. They might be getting their ducks in a row in preparation of that, so it’s not too easy to get PR and so on.

海外のナナシさん

There might be a new restoration soon 😭

海外のナナシさん

That’s the thing though, Peter Zeihan mentioned this a few years ago with his talk on population, and he mentioned that countries will be fighting for people, Japan isn’t the only country in need of people, so like, how is this going to really work? Also, will these coutnries be happy about investing in their citizens with schooling etc and then having them go and be the tax base for some other country?

I kind of think Japan is putting the cart before the horse on this whole issue.

補足

ピーター・ゼイハン(Peter Zeihan)は、地政学・人口動態・経済構造を組み合わせて世界の将来を語ることで有名なアメリカの分析家。
ゼイハンの最大の主張としては「世界はこれから“人の奪い合い”になる」

海外のナナシさん

The Middle East model is a good analogy, makes perfect sense.

海外のナナシさん

Thing is that only works if there’s more supply than demand…..it’s getting to the point where it isn’t anymore.

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